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hi im new to the site but i have a 2001 accent and i was lookin to do the beta 2.0 swap but i wasent sure what all was needed to do the complete swap so if someone could give me a list of everything i would need to do the swap i would be thankful.

 

 

 



 
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do you want to keep your

do you want to keep your transmission or use the stronger transmission from the elantra or tiburon?

if you want to just use your accent trans. all you need is the 2.0L from a 2001-2003 elantra or 2003-2004 tiburon. those are the ones that have the map sensor.

you need all your fluids. good idea to get a new performance clutch for the 1.6L. you need the 2.0L flywheel which you can buy from me. you need a custom passenger side motor mount which you can either make or buy from here.

thats about it if you keep your trans.

if you opt for the 2.0 trans which is the better choice. you will need the 2.0 trans, elantra slave cylinder, 2.0 clutch, some misc fittings to make the clutch line work with the slave cylinder, an elantra 1.8L auto passenger cv shaft, and 1.6L auto driver axle.



 
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will the wireing harness

will the wireing harness and computer from the 1.6 engine work for the 2.0 engine or will i have to get that stuff also

plus mine is an auto trans i plan on keep it till summer will the auto trans from the 1.6 bolt to the 2.0?

 

 



 
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i cant really find any

i cant really find any performance parts for the car either other than a header and bb throttle body.

 



 
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yea the 1.6 wiring harness

yea the 1.6 wiring harness and computer will run the 2.0 fine. the only difference according to dynos is that the 2.0 makes more low end torque with the 2.0 ecm but with the 1.6 ecm it actually makes a little more in the high end.

there is no reason the automatic shouldn't bolt on to the beta. i just don't really know what to do with the rest of it. you would need a beta's flex plate and i don't konw if the 1.6 torque convertor would bolt on to that or not.

what other kind of performance parts are you looking for? all that you have listed in your profile is about the extent of parts for a 1.6L and there are a few more things for the 2.0 like cams and adustable cam gears, underdrive crank pulley and overdrive accesory pulleys.



 
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is there a difference

is there a difference between the plugs on the 2.0 computer and the 1.6 computer?



 
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no there is no difference in

no there is no difference in the plugs but they have different pinouts. so the wiring is not the same between the two and the 2.0 ecm can't just be plugged in and work.



 
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is there any way to wire the

is there any way to wire the 2.0 to the 1.6



 
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yea but you have to splice

yea but you have to splice each individual wire or else swap the whole harness which is why no one with a 1.6 ever does it.



 
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thanks man

thanks man



 
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Could you shed some light on

Could you shed some light on the wiring that we need to splice to make the 2.0 engine work with the 1.6 harness? Thanks



 
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that's too broad of a

that's too broad of a question. if you want to use the 2.0's computer it requires the entire thing to be rewired. If you want to run the 2.0 with the 1.6's ecm like most of us do then there is next to no rewiring. only extending the few wires that don't reach.



 
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ok well that helps alot

ok well that helps alot thanks for the advice. Are the lines that need to be extended easy to spot out or maybe you could tell what ones they are?? Sorry to sound kind of dumb i just need my car up as soon as possible and don't want to have to fight a beta swap just want it to go smooth so any help you can give is great thanks!!!!



 
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So maybe you can help with

So maybe you can help with this. I have an 1.6 and the timing belt skiped and stoped rotating. So i am sure i bent some valves. My question is should i rebuild the head or do a beta swap cause cost is prob about the same?

 



 
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beta swapping would be

beta swapping would be the  faster of the options. are you auto of 5spd?

the lines that need to be extended are easy to spot. i believe its the cam sensor and the IAC (idler motor in the tb).



 
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my car is an auto for now

my car is an auto for now and plan on keeping it that way untill it goes out again i just rebult it for the second time!!! Thanks for the advice now all i have to do is find a good engine. I will prob be ordering a engine mount from yo!!!



 
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I am haveing trouble

I am haveing trouble finding a 2.0 engine locally and at a good price. Do you know of any good places to find a engine? What did you pay for yours? Thanks!!

 

 



 
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www.lkqcorp.com - they are

www.lkqcorp.com - they are a nationwide salvage yard and if they don't have it they all have daily transports between them so they will usually get one for you.

I paid 350 + a $75 core charge for mine from lkq but i think that they have gone up in the past few years

Also if you haven't already, try www.car-part.com



 
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Cool Thanks. The best price

Cool Thanks. The best price i have  found is about 500 shiped  on ebay.



 
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Hey, Im doing the beta swap

Hey, Im doing the beta swap to a 97 accent.  I've got some info from random sites online, but i just wanna make sure i understand.  From what i hear, i use my wiring, plugs into the 2.0 ecu.  keeping my tranny, I won't have to modify the axles.  I heard i should use the clutch from a 95 scoupe and the motor mount is my most concern.  Some people say you can make it work with the accent mount, others are saying to modify the tiburon mount, or just use the tiburon mount itself.  Which works or is easiest.  Does anyone know where i could buy the mount premade?



 
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You can buy the mount here.

You can buy the mount here. As far as the 2.0 ecu you need the adpter or just run the ecu you have. As you look thriught the site you will find more info to help!!



 
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That would be cool if i

That would be cool if i could by the mount here, where do i find it? Also, i thought the 2.0 ecu will plug into th 97-99 accents and the adapter is needed for the 95-96 also the 00 and up use a different plug, but mine should plug right in i thought.  Oh and 1.8 or 2.0 ecu? Im hearing the 1.8 is better in some cases.



 
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my mount's are for 00+

my mount's are for 00+ cars, I have no idea if they will work for an X3.

The ecm thing, you are right. You are one of the lucky ones where the tib ecm just plugs right into your existing harness and works.

The adapter that sfr sells is for LC and LC2 accents where we have the identical connector for the ecms but the pinouts are different.



 
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Alright thanks i think i've

Alright thanks i think i've got it now. Thinkin about goin with the 1.8 ecu though, heard it runs the 2.0 a little better.



 
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if i am running the 1.6 auto

if i am running the 1.6 auto do i still need the 2.0 flywheel? maybe thats a dumd question but any way!!!



 
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no. automatics don't use

no. automatics don't use flywheels. you have what is called a flex plate. its a triangular lookin thing that bolts to the crank shaft and your torque converter bolts to that. just don't ask me how it works lol. and also since i don't know of anyone that has ever done a swap with an automatic i cant tell you if it will work or not either. IF it will work you are going to need the 2.0's flex plate because the beta has a 6-bolt crank whereas the alpha has a 5-bolt. the only way to tell is to compare the two.



 
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thats good to know i hope

thats good to know i hope that it all goes well it sounds like i am one of the first to do a beta swap with a 1.6 auto trans



 
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Hey another dumb question do

Hey another dumb question do you have to pul the engine and trans out or is the swap possible to leave the trans in place!!!?



 
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its easier to pull them both

its easier to pull them both and work on it in the open.



 
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ryan will you send me a pic

ryan will you send me a pic of your engine mount in the car, and did you test fit the one you made for me?



 
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are you having trouble

are you having trouble with it? i make them all exactly the same so no i didn't test fit it. your other 3 mounts have to be slotted for it to work. your motor and tranny are gonna need to be moved over about 1/2"



 
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i have not started yet but

i have not started yet but when i put the mount on the elantra motor it wouldn't fit flush against the engine mount, maybe it will with weight on it. where do and how do i need to slot the other mounts?!!! Thank You so much for all your help you are a cool guy!!!

 

 



 
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it's hard to explain, but

it's hard to explain, but ill try

looking at the car from the front. for each mount drill holes on the driver's side of the existing bolt hole. that will move the mounts over to the passenger side on the tranny, which will let you mount the whole shabang toward the driver's side.



 
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ok i think i know what you

ok i think i know what you mean, if you get a chance will you take a pic of one if you can? Sorry to be a pain i am just trying to make sure i have all my bases covered before i start so it goes nice and as smooth as posible!!!



 
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Not sure? So on the two

Not sure? So on the two mounts that hook up on the front and the back drill holes towards the right side/ drivers side of the car!! what about the driver side upper mount by the battery/ where the air box should be?



 
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on that one drill the holes

on that one drill the holes on the left side of the hole that the bolt goes through.



 
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ok i got it now so from the

ok i got it now so from the center of each whole drill another 1/2 inch toward the driver side, in all it will move the motor towards the driver side a half inch!!!!



 
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right except for the top

right except for the top tranny mount. drill the hole to the passenger side of the existing hole. it'll make more sense when you're doing it.



 
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ok so mounts passanger

ok so mounts passanger costom made by ryan(thank you again) two lower trans mounts drill 1/2 inch to the driver side, upper trans mount drill 1/2 to the passanger side. Is that correct? Do i have to do any thing to my axels and remember i am keeping my 1.6 auto trans!!!



 
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that's right for the

that's right for the mounts. 

you're on your own with the axles cuz remember no one has done this swap with the auto. you may end up having to shorten the driver side one. but just drive it and see first. it might start binding but then again it might not.



 
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cool thanks, do you have to

cool thanks, do you have to shorten the axels on the accent manuel trans ? 



 
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on the accent manual trans

on the accent manual trans its not necessary when everything is mounted level. its completely necessary on the beta trans.



 
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Hey Ryan I found your

Hey Ryan I found your instructions about the beta swap on hp and was wondering what you ment by the griding for the starter to fit. Do i grind the block or the starter its self? And i am con fused on the mounts if you can will you take pic of the other three if not is cool?



 
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i had to grind away at the

i had to grind away at the plate that is attached to the motor. not the block itself. on mine the plate covered up the hole for the starter to stick in and one of the bolt holes. it might be different with the automatic. it might line up.



 
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Havin some trouble gettin my

Havin some trouble gettin my car runnin.  Got the 2.0 L beta in my 97 accent and mounted, wired up, but it just won't start.  Used the accent computer, 99 tib computer and 99 elantra computer none start it, none turn on the fuel pump when i turn the key on.  When i use the accent computer the MFI relay buzzes and vibrates. Anybody had a problem like this or can help? I have spark, and am using the accent crank sensor.  The engine turns over, just won't fire.



 
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you use a beta 1 or beta 2?

you use a beta 1 or beta 2? what year did it come out of? its possible that the injectors are no good. disconnect the fuel line and point it in a can or something while you are cranking the engine and see if it is pumping and fuel out. make sure you have your spark plugs firing in the proper order.